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TSC Meeting Minutes Archive (2018)

Owned by David McBride
Last updated: Dec 19, 2018

Dec 25, 2018 (cancelled)

Dec 18, 2018

Agenda

Minutes

  • Approval of meeting minutes
    • No comments - minutes approved.
  • Chair report 
    • Meeting with OVNO & Tungsten Fabric
    • Tungsten Fabric Induction
    • OPNFV presentation to the LFN Board
      • Former user (Deleted) presented a 15 minute report on OPNFV to the board 
      • Feedback from board: 
        • Need more input from telco operators
        • Need more visibility and reporting on compliance (Dovetail/OVP)
  • Release update
    • Gambia 7.1 was released Dec 14. 
    • Download page went live on Monday, Jan 17. 
    • Cristina Pauna asks about MS3.0 for Hunter release.  Says that Fuel will not be ready for 2 - 3 weeks.
      • David McBride to follow up with installer teams about status and milestone schedule.
  • iT/Infra Update
    • No update today 
  • Calendar
    • David McBride reminds the TSC that today is the last meeting for the TSC in 2018.  The next meeting will be Jan 8, and will include a F2F at PlugFest, in addition to the usual Zoom conference.
    • No release meeting today.  Next release meeting will be Jan 15.
  • TSC Jira Process
    • Former user (Deleted) and Frank Brockners propose that TSC members should be able to generate tickets independently of the TSC meetings, contrary to the current, proposed process.
    • David McBride to update JIRA process to enable unilateral creation of tickets by TSC members 
  • Action item review
    • TSC-11 - Getting issue details... STATUS  closed 

Dec 11, 2018

Agenda

Minutes

  • Approval of minutes
    • No comments - minutes approved
  • Chair Report
    • Upcoming board meeting
      • Former user (Deleted) says that OPNFV has a 15 minute slot to present to the board on Wednesday, Dec 12
    • Ongoing work on strategy at weekly tech discussion
      • 8 work items identified in strategy discussion
      • POC identified for six of the work items 
      • Frank Brockners says that the weekly technical discussion overlaps with the ONAP TSC meeting. Would it be possible to adjust the time for the weekly technical meeting? 
  • Marketing Update
  • TF Induction Review
    • Former user (Deleted) says that TF induction was iscussed at the TAC meeting last week. Voting is in progress.
    • The TAC made a recommendation on governance which was accepted.
    • Former user (Deleted) recommends supporting induction 
  • Winter holiday schedule
    • Discussion about the schedule for TSC meetings through the holidays.
    • The TSC agrees that the last meeting of the year will be on Dec 18. Our first meeting of the new year will be on Jan 8. Meetings on Dec 25 and Jan 1 are cancelled. 
  • Release update
    • The TSC votes to approve the release of Gambia 7.1 on December 14.
  • IT/Infra Update
  • Copper termination review
  • Community lab utilization
    • Trevor Cooper  says that many pods are under-utilized.
    • Former user (Deleted) says that this discussion is another aspect of our "infra evolution" objective.
    • Former user (Deleted) suggests that we continue discussion in the infra working group meeting and the weekly technical discussion.
    • Brandon Wick says that marketing can help get the message out about providing services to other communities.
  • TSC JIRA process
    • David McBride says that Former user (Deleted) had requested a process for how the TSC will use JIRA.  David reviews the proposed process with the team.
    • David McBride says that the process emphasizes that JIRA issues should come out of discussions within TSC meetings.
    • Frank Brockners and Trevor Cooper ask why we can't drive the TSC agenda, itself, using JIRA. 
    • Team agrees to continue discussing the TSC JIRA process.

Dec 4, 2018

Agenda

Minutes

  • Approval of minutes
    • No comments - minutes approved
  • MS Exception 
    • Emma Foley
    • SDNVPN team would like to add a scenario 
    • Former user (Deleted) provides background on the exception request
    • David McBride emphasizes that the MS exception simply makes the scenario eligible for release, but that it still needs to meet other release requirements.
    • The TSC agrees to the SDNVPN milestone exception 
  • Gambia 7.1 release 
    • David McBride says that there are problems with Fuel and Compass deployments and recommends delaying the release until Dec 14.
    • TSC agrees to move the release date for Gambia 7.1 to Dec 14 
  • OPNFV strategy (dmcbride, 14:18:04)
    • Former user (Deleted) describes changes to the strategy slide deck, based on feedback from TSC members 
    • Frank Brockners  asks the meaning for an "unlimited vertical" 
    • Former user (Deleted) explains that it means vertical NFV services and workloads
    • Former user (Deleted) further explains it should also include non-NFV workloads
    • Former user (Deleted) says that he would like to present the strategy to the board and get feedback 
    • Georg Kunz asks if there is sufficient detail in the strategy to have a meaningful discussion with the board 
    • Former user (Deleted) explains that we only have 10-15 minutes, so we will keep in very high level. If Board needs more details, we can set up another deep-dive session with Board for details.
    • Team further works out the final wording on slide #13, and agrees.
    • David McBride suggests a vote, but the consensus is that a #agree is sufficient.
    • The TSC approves the vision and direction expressed by slide #13 in the OPNFV Strategy and Plan as discussed in the Weekly Technical Discussion with the understanding that we will revise and adjust accordingly whenever needed, and agrees to Bin presenting it to the Board 
    • Former user (Deleted) says "I'd like to record in the minutes that I am not on board with this and that I made alternative proposals which the chairman did not allow to be discussed in the TSC meeting."
  • Budget discussion (everyone except TSC members and LF staff excused)
    • Discussion of Frank's spreadsheet as it was at the conclusion of yesterday's dedicated budget meeting.
    • The TSC agrees that Bin will contact the Board Finance Committee with a request to consider TSC budget items (community events, intern travel) that were not previously presented to the Board. 
    • The TSC agrees on the budget shown in the spreadsheet presented by Frank and discussed by the TSC on December 3 and 4. 

Dec 3, 2018 (ad hoc budget discussion)

Agenda

  • Budget
    • Review budget slide deck mailed to TSC members.

Minutes

  • Former user (Deleted) presents the revised TSC budget ask, including items unapproved by the board 
  • Frank Brockners shares a spreadsheet to help the team consider different budget scenarios 
  • Frank Brockners to share revised budget ask with the broader TSC. 
    • Frank points out that we had only 8 TSC members on the call, so we should share the changes to allow other TSC members that were unable to attend to weigh in. 

Nov 27, 2018

Agenda

Minutes

Nov 20, 2018

Agenda

Minutes

  • Approval of Minutes
    • No comments - minutes approved
  • Lightning Talk
    • TSC approves of the Barometer talk proposal for the lightning talk at the LFN Reception at Kubecon.
  • OPNFV strategy and plan
    • Strategy was presented by Former user (Deleted) over the past two Thursdays at weekly technical discussion 
    • Former user (Deleted) says that he was unable to attend the last weekly technical discussion and needs more time to review before voting 
    • Former user (Deleted) asks if the primary goal is to enable users to replicate deployment and test toolchain 
    • Former user (Deleted) shares slide from strategy presentation 
    • Former user (Deleted) asks what are the consequences of voting on this plan 
    • Frank Brockners asks whether we really need a vote.  Frank believes that it is more of an "inspiration" than a top-down plan 
    • David McBride to refresh Former user (Deleted) email thread from a few weeks ago to begin community discussion on plan
    • Frank Brockners says that we need to match what projects are capable of doing with the plan 
    • Regarding Strategic Plan, Bin points out that one critical part of TSC's role is to set up strategy and visions for the community. This is what TSC needs to play in its leadership role. So TSC is the top-down leadership role, and project's daily operation is the bottom-up execution of the project 
    • Bin further points out that we provide opportunity for community and projects to give comments, including projects' view of direction, and how and what project is capable of doing it. So the process allows projects' input 
    • Once we have vision, the next step is to define details of deliverables, i.e. what we can offer, based on resources and project's capability 
    • We target next week (Nov 27) for the vote if discussion on mailing list is mature. We allow for comprehensive discussion, and we need a date to set up the direction as the 1st milestone in order to further move towards next steps.
  • Release update
    • David McBride says that 31 projects have committed to Hunter release 
    • MS1 on Friday, Nov 23 
    • release plans on Nov 23
    • release process working group is working on evolving the release model - meets on Fridays
    • Dec 7 - MS2 - test cases 
    • Dec 7 - Gambia 7.1 release 
  • Community labs
    • Trevor Cooper  asks Whether lab resources being allocated in an appropriate way.
    • Lab resources should be allocated for the benefit of the community, not particular individuals
    • Should we put a time limit on resource allocation? 
  • AoB
    • first 30 minutes of next week's meeting will be for regular TSC business and the following 60 minutes will be dedicated to the budget discussion 

Nov 13, 2018

Agenda

Minutes

  • Approval of minutes
    • No comments - minutes approved
  • Lightning talks at Kubecon in December 
    • Format update from Heather: 
      • No slides.  This will better promote a fast paced, engaging presentation.
      • 5 minutes instead of 10
    • Brandon Wick says that in choosing a talk proposal, the TSC should consider which is most likely to be engaging to the wider Kubecon audience, not just OPNFV or LFN.
    • David McBride will send a survey to TSC members to select between the two proposals.
  • Marketing Update Brandon Wick  
  • Chair Report 
    • Waiting for board to come back with report on budget status 
    • Tungsten Fabric Induction
  • Release update 
    • Gambia 7.0 going live today 
    • Intent to participate window closes Nov 23 (MS1). Release plans also due then. 
      • 29 projects intending to participate in Hunter. Expecting 2 or 3 more. 
    • Gambia 7.1 scheduled for Dec 7 
  • Infra update 
  • AI review 

Nov 6, 2018

Agenda

Minutes

  • Approval of minutes 
    • No comments - minutes approved 
  • release update
    • David McBride says that Compass is failing single vm health check then skipping remainder of tests.  This is consistent across scenarios.
    • David McBride says that there is insufficient test feedback to evaluate Compass-based scenarios for release 
    • The TSC votes and approves the release of Gambia 7.0 on Friday, Nov 9 without the compass installer and associated scenarios.
    • The TSC votes and approves the release of the Compass installer and associated scenarios if they pass health check by Friday, based on release manager's discretion.
  • Action item review
  • Chair report
  • Other topics on the mailing list.

Nov 1, 2018 (ad hoc meeting with MWG)

Agenda

  • Description of proposed Container Networking Workshop at Kubecon (X2) in 2019 Brandon Wick
  • Discussion of benefits of a Mini-Summit vs. the proposed Container Networking Workshop

Minutes

  • Brandon Wick shares a link to a description of the container networking workshop 
  • Brandon Wick says that the plan is to hold a full-day topic-centric, not project-centric, workshop at Kubecon to engage with the CNCF/k8s communities and discuss container networking.
  • There is concern about splitting the audience as well as the high cost of maintaining 3 events: fdio summit; opnfv summit; container networking workshop
  • Brandon Wick says that if OPNFV TSC determines that mini-summit is essential, then container networking workshop would probably be dropped 
  • Former user (Deleted) proposes keeping the budget item and having OPNFV work closely with MAC to determine topics 
  • TSC to discuss workshop proposal at Nov 6 meeting and make a decision
  • Former user (Deleted) says that he likes the approach of the proposed workshop, since Apex wants to engage more with k8s 

Oct 31, 2018 (ad hoc meeting to discuss budget)

Agenda

  • Review budget line items and decide on priority
    • Note:  sensitive cost data shared prior to the meeting via email to individual members

Minutes

  • Budget
    • Frank Brockners  shares a revised spreadsheet with suggested priorities for each line item
    • Question:  is "tech marketing" an LFN or OPNFV line item?
    • Question:  is the plugfest report a shared cost with ONAP, since we're having a joint event?
    • Question:  do we need to budget for two or three plugfests, since one of the plugfests was originally scheduled for Dec, 2018, but slipped into Jan, 2019
    • When discussing line item for local meetups, Former user (Deleted) asks how the community can be made aware of these events.
    • Question:  are local meetups an LFN or OPNFV line item?
    • David McBride to get a detailed breakdown, by vendor, for the "hosting" line item
    • Question:  are interns an LFN or OPNFV line item?
    • Frank Brockners comments that, over the long term, LaaS should become a shared cost across LFN as we move to make it available to users outside of OPNFV.

Oct 30, 2018

Agenda

Minutes

  • Approval of minutes from previous two meetings
    • No comments - minutes approved
  • Agenda bashing
  • Finalize budget roll-up for the board
  • hunter schedule
    • Trevor Bramwell makes the point the schedule does not reflect the continuous process, only the stable process
      • David McBride responds that this is true, because the CD process has not yet been established and is currently being developed by the RPWG.
    • The TSC votes and approves the Hunter schedule, as presented.
    • Trevor Bramwell  and David McBride  to add release schedule to location discussed by TAC 
    • CD process will be developed in the RPWG with a goal of having a recommendation by plugfest 
  • TAC representative
    • Frank Brockners asks whether we need to elect a new TAC representative. What is the term? 
    • discussion on whether or not TSC Chair = TAC representative 
    • Former user (Deleted) doesn't believe that there is a specified term 
    • Frank Brockners reviews charter. Charter just says that we will have a representative to the TAC. It does not specify a term. 
    • The TSC votes and approves that for the time being, the TSC chair Former user (Deleted) will act as TAC representative. The TSC further agrees that they will formalize the TAC representative and determine a term of service
    • Frank Brockners proposes a JIRA for the TSC 
      •  David McBride to setup a JIRA project to track TSC action items and resolution
  • TSC plan for the coming year
  • Release update
    • David McBride proposes delaying Gambia release one week due to problems with Apex and Compass installers. 
      • Further discussion in release meeting and mailing list, followed by email vote. 
  • infra update
    • Trevor Bramwell says that updates are planned immediately following Gambia release. Will describe in more detail on the mailing list. 

Oct 23, 2018

Agenda

Minutes

  • Approval of previous meeting's minutes
    • No quorum - deferred to next week.
  • Budget
  • UCS servers
  • OPNFV Plugfest - January 8 - 11, Nokia - Saclay-Paris, FR 
    • David McBride says that this will be a 4 day event , instead of 5 days, as done in the past
    • Plugfest will be 2nd week of Jan in Saclay (Paris)
    • Co-located with ONAP DDF
    • Former user (Deleted) says that the event will be hosted by Nokia - thanks to the Nokia team for accommodating us
    • David McBride says that the planning meeting will begin Monday, October 29 
      • invitation will be sent to the mailing list
    • Former user (Deleted) requests that we setup a joint call with the ONAP project
  • IT/Infra update
    • Kernel updates pending, to be scheduled so that they do not interfere with the Gambia release
    • Trevor Bramwell will send a scheduling proposal by mail
  • Release update

Oct 16, 2018

Agenda

Minutes

  • Approval of previous meeting's minutes
    • Note: we lacked quorum for the past two meetings, so the minutes for both of those meetings were considered.
    • No comments - minutes for the past two meetings approved.
  • Budget discussion
  • Other topics deferred due to lack of time

Oct 9, 2018

Agenda

  • Approval of previous meeting minutes
  • Agenda bashing
  • Planning for Plugfest - impact on company planning/budgeting
  • Election update David McBride
    • Schedule
    • Nominees
    • How does the TSC want to handle the TSC chair vote if there is a single nominee?
      1. Single nominee is named Chair without a vote.
      2. TSC votes for either the single nominee, or re-running the nomination process.
  • Proposal to investigate replacing UCS servers with packet.net support.
  • Budget discussion
  • Release update: David McBride
    • Kickoff meeting for Release Process Working Group on Friday, Oct 12, at 6 a.m. (PST).
  • LF IT/Infra update: Former user (Deleted), 

Minutes

  • Approval of minutes
    • Deferred to next week due to lack of quorum
  • Agenda bashing
    • Qiao Fu requests that we discuss Plugfest planning.  Topic is accepted for discussion today.
  • Plugfest planning
    • David McBride and Heather Kirksey describe the status of plugfest planning.
      • A Nokia site in France has been identified and discussions are underway.
      • Date would likely be in January.
    • Qiao Fu says that plugfest planning impacts budgeting for OPNFV.
    • Former user (Deleted) asks whether other organizations are in a similar situation.
    • Heather Kirksey offers to discuss issue with any organizations that would like more information about plugfest planning.
  • Election update
    • David McBride says that the nomination period for TSC chair is nearly over and there has just been one nomination. 
    • How would the TSC like to handle the situation where there is just a single candidate for TSC chair?
    • Discussion about different ways to handle this scenario.
    • Heather Kirksey says that LF recommends running an election even in the case of a single nominee.
    • General consensus that the new TSC should update the community election procedure to handle this situation.
    • TSC agrees to add a "no confidence" option to the ballot and run the vote with whatever the nominees are by end of the nomination period.
  • Proposal to replace UCS servers
  • Budget discussion
    • David McBride refers to an email sent to the mailing list last week.
    • Former user (Deleted) asks about the schedule for the budget process.
    • Former user (Deleted) makes the point that the new TSC should weigh in on the budget, but they won't be seated for a few more weeks.
    • Former user (Deleted) asks for a summary of spending for OPNFV, so that the TSC can understand in which areas funds are currently being spent.
    • Budget discussion will continue on the mailing list and in future TSC meetings.
  • Release update
  • Infra update

Oct 2, 2018

Agenda

Minutes

  • Approval of last week's minutes
    • Deferred to next week due to lack of quorum
  • Election update
    • One week left until TSC chair nominations close on Oct 9
    • One nomination for TSC chair, so far
    • See agenda for links to election schedule and list of nominees
  • Training resource discussion
    • David McBride notes that a discussion with Former user (Deleted) at ONS about his OPNFV training session led to a discussion with Former user (Deleted) about training resources, in general.
    • Training resources are dispersed.  There is no single location to find information on all available training resources.
      • E.g., YouTube, Linux Foundation, individual projects
    • Training resources are of varying quality, age, and relevance.
    • Former user (Deleted) says that the community should be aware of existing material & content, and have a chance to review & make suggestions.
    • David McBride to collect information on available trainings and report to TSC, invite others as needed.
  • Release update
    • David McBride says that MS8 (end of formal testing) is scheduled for Oct 30.
    • Hunter release page and schedule proposal in-process.  Will be presented to the TSC later this month.
  • IT/Infra Update
    • Trevor Bramwell says that there was a Jenkins outage last weekend
      • caused by "Next Executor" plugin
      • Plugin was disabled, leading to recovery
    • Cédric Ollivier asks if problems with build servers have been addressed. Trevor Bramwell says not yet  
    • PDX contract
      • Rudy Grigar says that PDX contract is up for renewal. 
      • cost will stay the same 
      • moving from a 3 year contract to a 1 year contract
      • new contract has more flexibility to change resource capacity as needed 
      • Former user (Deleted) to contact Jonne for instructions how to handle the PDX contract extension from LFN process point of view 
    • Replacing UCS with packet.net BMaaS 
      • Benefits include improving support and reliability. Also more flexible. We can change locations, attach additional hardware (traffic gen, acceleration, etc.) 
      • We would also get rolling updates. (
      • Former user (Deleted) suggests paying for one pod for a short period for evaluation. If successful, then make a longer commitment. 
      • David McBride to prepare a request to the TSC to approve evaluation of packet.net as a replacement for the UCS hardware at PDX, including making a request to the finance committee.

Sept 25, 2018 - Cancelled

Sept 18, 2018

Agenda

Minutes

  • Approval of last week's minutes 
    • no comments - minutes approved 
  • Change in scope for next OVP release
    • email from Georg Kunz
    • Georg Kunz reviews the reasons for changing scope (first presented last week)
      • no support for Keystone API v2 
      • requires that all commercial systems support v3 
      • this is a change in the original scope, which included support for v2 and v3 
    • The TSC approves of the change in scope for the next OVP release as described here.
      • Note that wenjing also supports the vote 
  • MS exception review
    • Barometer (MS5) - Has had trouble integrating with Apex tooling 
    • AGREED: the TSC approves of MS exception for MS5/6 for the Barometer project 
    • OVN4NFV - No representative 
  • Marketing Update(
    • Brandon Wick reminds everyone of activities at ONS, including UnConference sessions 
    • Brandon Wick notes that joint plugtest/plugfest report will be published next week 
    • Brandon Wick reviews the 2019 marketing plan 
    • Review of discussion questions LFN marketing group is using to help define goals for 2019 
    • Definitions of the primary audience and explanation of how marketing traction measured 
    • Further questions for defining 2019 goals 
    • Overview of Digital and Event marketing plans for 2019 
    • Question from Trevor Cooper  about whether marketing was focusing on testing only.  Heather Kirkseywill consider rewording slide bullets.
  • Release WG
    • David is working to organize release-wg meeting. Get in touch with him if interested.
  • TSC Gathering at ONS
  • IT/Infra
    • no planned maintenance 
    • fix for company firewalls that don't accept UDP 
    • looking into build server instability 
    • people with VPN credentials will need to renew. Trevor to send instructions. 
    • ACTION: bramwelt to send email to frankbrockners with description of VM/UCS issue and credentials to access system 
    • Cisco switch support approved by finance committee 
  • TSC meeting next week during ONS
    • Frank Brockners suggests polling TSC members about whether to have a meeting next week
    • David McBride asks if anyone opposes cancelling the meeting next week 
    • The TSC agrees to cancel the Sept 25 TSC meeting.

Sept 11, 2018

Agenda

Minutes

  • Approval of previous week's minutes
    • no comments - minutes approved
  • TSC election status
    • Discussion of different options as described in email last week
    • Several comments in support of doing nothing, since the impact of the error is fairly small.
    • The TSC approves of keeping the current active contributor list and continuing the process as per today (i.e. the election period ends on Sept 25)
  • Rocket project proposal
    • Former user (Deleted) highlights a new objective in the project proposal concerning making acceleration hardware available to the community (see objective 6)
    • Frank Brockners  says that his concern was that anyone who wants to contribute, should be able to contribute and that his concern has been satisfied
    • The TSC approves of the Rocket Project proposal.
  • Lab as a Service Phase 2
  • Release Milestone Exceptions
  • Change in scope for next OVP release 
    • Georg Kunz says that OVP no longer has access to Keystone API v2 
    • This changes expectation for system under test (i.e., must support v3 instead of v2)
    • Former user (Deleted) asks whether there was a deprecation notice from the Functest project. georgk says no.
    • Former user (Deleted) and Cristina Pauna indicate no effect on their respective projects, which already support v3 
    • Former user (Deleted) suggests a 1 week review period for projects to object to lack of v2 support 
    • Georg Kunz takes an action to start thread on TSC mailing list and include slide deck presentation 
    • Former user (Deleted) requests an email vote following the review 

Sept 4, 2018

Agenda

Minutes

  • Approval of previous week's minutes
    • no comments - minutes approved
  • OVP Governance